Police Shoot 15 year old Nationalist Tyler Cassidy

December 12, 2008

Police have shot a Nationalist youth in a stand off in Northcote, Melbourne today. It seems the youth, Tyler Cassidy, might have been prompting a confrontation with police over his pro-Nationalist, and anti-immigration, beliefs. He was shot down like a dog in the street.

See here and here.

This comes on top of many trigger happy Vic Police incidents in recent years…

Its hard to believe that four armed Police can’t tackle a fifteen year old boy? Even one with a knife? Why do Police always shoot at the center of the body, too? Could they not drop the suspect with one shot in the arm, or leg?

The frustration of Tyler is endemic of many Australian youths raised in a country with little opportunity, or future for them. They feel their nation and culture is under attack and their homeland being sold down the river by various interests. They also see the reality of street gang violence on Public transport and in the streets. Northcote and Preston are classic areas of confrontation with groups like Southern Cross Soldiers. It would not surprise me if this incident was perhaps a suicide, masked as an attack? Tyler Cassidy maybe decided to martyr himself?

Apparently Tyler was a member of the proto-fascist Nationalist group Southern Cross Soldiers. Tyler Cassidy’s myspace page is here. Southern Cross Soldier’s Melbourne site is here. These pages lack ideological sophistication and use unfortunate language, but are still heart felt attempts at some form of political expression. This reach for a political voice in Australian youth is unusual in an age where young people are generally apolitical hipsters, empty bubble headed consumers or simply unengaged in political discourse.

His family have released this statement here.

An article on the suicide/martyrdom theory is here.

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12 Responses to “Police Shoot 15 year old Nationalist Tyler Cassidy”

  1. I think it’s simplistic and potentially fuelling conflict to say the cops shot him dead like a dog in the street. I don’t think you can make a call like that without knowing the facts. I feel sorry for the kid, his family AND the police who have to go to their respective homes knowing they may have played an active part in this kid’s possible suicide.

  2. Greg Maxwell said

    As the socialists march onwards in state governments, there will be more of this. Welcome to the police state.

  3. richard777 said

    Paul, well recently when a 15 year old was shot in Greece there were days of riots. Here it’s business as usual. No one cares. Our ‘democratic’ society is just double speak for the reality most people live in, in the West, i.e as apathetic apolitical alienated monism’s.

    RE: Cassidy. Your telling me they couldn’t pepper spray him down or fire one shot into his leg or arm to end the conflict without fatality?

    The fact that Cassidy was a member of the Southern Cross Soldiers, and a Nationalist patriot, aggravates and politicizes the matter. It opens the question of political martyrdom/suicide?

    Indeed, knowing the details of the shooting would answer these questions. I’m more than happy to fuel conflict… from conflict comes change…

    Greg, the latent totalitarianism in socialism is self evident to most politically enlightened. Our Society though is Later Capitalist, with some Socialist leanings, I grant you…

  4. Greg Maxwell said

    Rich, whilst the overall tone of our society is capitalist, the greatest thrust for change has been coming from the socialist Left with Labor governments in most states and federally. That statist trend is leading to unelected judges being specifically chosen from the ranks of activists by Hulls and his ilk to head appeals tribunals and make legislation from the bench with their decisions. These judges are the Leftistas way of stacking the decks should the lumpenproles ever decide they want some self determination, rather than government by loud minority lobbyists, and start electing conservative governments.
    Hand in hand with this is an increasing reliance on police, and quasi police like the fare evasion nazis, for increasingly heavy handed social controls. Interesting that it’s the angry white kid with a kitchen knife who draws 4 coppers with shooters drawn but a rock throwing gang of somalians or other war-zone trained darkies gets the “Big Kev” Nixon softly softly treatment. Our political masters know where their bread’s buttered. It’s a lot easier to create a safe labor seat by importing thousands of illiterate, psychologically damaged refugees, housing them and paying them at taxpayers expense and giving them a free pass on anti-social violence, than it is to generate enough economic prosperity to build another Kooyong.
    This is not the result of capitalism, it’s the direct result of the cynical social engineering policies of the post-modern Leftists.

  5. Mark said

    Greg Maxwell is obviously misguided in a number of fundemental issues. I would first, however, like to pont out that this article is very poorly written. Now to adress Mr. Maxwell: I don’t know how you can link this incident with the socialist movement. Firstly this was the death of an apparently ultra-nationalistic, right wing child. If anything ths was the result of the ultra-right. Secondly, although the Labor governments are left wing, they are by no means attempting to destroy the system of capitalism in Australia. They are no more communist then the Liberals are fascists. Also, in our country judges have always been appointed and neither side of politics wants to change that. If judges were elected it would fundamentaly destroy the seperation of powers and the fundamental right for citizens to be tried by an unbiased judge. If they were elected they would have an agenda which they would need to fulfill, their only agenda is to apply the law ubiasedly.
    Also, Richard777, I am not sure how you can link socialism with totalitarianism when the fascist states were undenibly right wing, especially in their social views. You say that conflict brings change, it would seem you have little faith in our democracy which is one of the best and most efficiant in the world.

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  7. Rups said

    I don’t think we have a particularly grand or efficient democracy here. Most of the current censorship policies have come through under handed by a government – corruption is not strife within our political system it is simply transparent, making for deadlier inequalities. As far as things like Police shootings go, if you look at the global peace index for 2008, Australia rates at number 27, after Bhutan and other countries like New Zealand, Germany, Japan, Portugal, and Canada.

  8. Greg Maxwell said

    Right, let’s deal with mark’s little epistle piecemeal, shall we?

    “Greg Maxwell is obviously misguided in a number of fundemental issues.”
    Really, well perhaps you could point them out then?

    “I would first, however, like to pont out that this article is very poorly written.”
    Hello pot, meet kettle. Pont? Fundemental?

    ” Now to adress Mr. Maxwell: I don’t know how you can link this incident with the socialist movement. Firstly this was the death of an apparently ultra-nationalistic, right wing child. If anything ths was the result of the ultra-right.”
    Well, unless their procedures have changed a lot, police dispatch was hardly likely to have taken the time to give the coppers a run down on the offender’s political associations so they would have no way of telling anything other than that he was a skinny kid with a kitchen knife. A CHILD as you say. So, here we have 4 of Vicco’s finest with guns and pepper spray unwilling to get close enough to use the latter effectively but perfectly willing to stand 35 ft back and blow holes in him. So, I’d say the blame lies squarely at the feet of the force and its policies. Said force being the enforcement arm of the socialist left labor led government. A government that has been indulging in a great deal of social engineering and unequal enforcement of the law where certain groups of immigrants are concerned.

    “Secondly, although the Labor governments are left wing, they are by no means attempting to destroy the system of capitalism in Australia. They are no more communist then the Liberals are fascists.”
    I don’t recall saying anything about destroying capitalism or communists. That’s your strawman argument and I’ll leave you to it.

    ” Also, in our country judges have always been appointed and neither side of politics wants to change that. If judges were elected it would fundamentaly destroy the seperation of powers and the fundamental right for citizens to be tried by an unbiased judge. If they were elected they would have an agenda which they would need to fulfill, their only agenda is to apply the law ubiasedly.”
    Unbiasedly??? Dear me you really are stretching aren’t you? Firstly, the idea of elected judges is another strawman argument of yours, I didn’t raise it. I believe my comment re judges was that the ones being appointed by Hulls are almost exclusively from the activist ranks of Liberty Victoria, a left wing legal collective with decidedly activist leanings. They come to the bench with a definite agenda to fulfill and are doing so by upholding appeals on subjects which are far more properly the subject of legislation rather than law making from the bench.
    “Also, Richard777, I am not sure how you can link socialism with totalitarianism when the fascist states were undenibly right wing, especially in their social views.”
    Richard will undoubtedly have his own comments but I will just say that it is inevitable that socialist states will have to resort to totalitarian tactics because to confiscate increasingly large percentages of the fruits of their subjects labours for redistribution to each according to need will eventually result in the resentment of the put upon worker will boil over into rebellion which will need to be crushed. Find a socialist state that does not repress its citizens. Cuba? Venezuela? Zimbabwe?

    “You say that conflict brings change, it would seem you have little faith in our democracy which is one of the best and most efficiant in the world.”
    True, it is, but it is noticeably less so compared to my youth. A result of the decades of post-modern leftist influence on public policy. Being obviously a bit younger, perhaps you lack the necessary perspective.

  9. CaptainReality said

    “Being obviously a bit younger, perhaps you lack the necessary perspective.”

    Ding ding. Self-righteousness alert.

  10. Greg Maxwell said

    Ding Ding!! Poor choice of descriptor alert!!
    self-right·eous (sělf’rī’chəs)
    adj.
    Piously sure of one’s own righteousness; moralistic.
    I don’t know if I was moralising. Certainly I was suggesting that someone not of my advanced years would not necessarily have had the depth of experience to judge the change in political landscape. Having gone through the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and now the naughties, I probably have every justification for assuming a greater level of perspective on social change than some callow youth.

  11. Rob said

    Just noticed this one but lets point out something here in regards to the ‘artical’.

    For a start how about taking a step back and checking some facts first, for a start the events actually occuring that night STILL haven’t been released to the public while it’s under going enquiry. So there is a good chance that something occured that prevented normal subdueing.

    Secondly why do police shoot for the body rather then the arm and leg etc etc. Get a gun and go try and shoot a small target when you have very little time to aim when the target is moving, your adrenilin is pumping.

    The simple point is that a police officer is trained to protect himself as much as doing anything else. That means making certain that if you have to shoot the gun…. that you get it right the first time, because you may not get a second.

    Is there ways around this, yes Tasers but we don’t see that happening in Victoria, however the fact remains the entire circumstances of this day are NOT avalible to us and until then this artical is conjecture. If Tyler who his own mother has openly admitted had:

    1. Come home apparently after being in a fight.
    2. Been Underage Drinking (She claims not enough to be drunk)
    3. Admited that he was quote “Pissed off just leave me alone” unquote to his mother.
    4. Stole the knives from a store so he knew what he was doing.
    5. Rang 000 and stated he was going to kill.

    attacked the police then sorry they defended themselves with the weapon they have for doing it. I know I wouldn’t be risking a blade in me to get some one with pepper spray.

    Also his mother is JUST as MUCH to blame, we hear poor her poor tyler.. SHE let him walk out she was his LEGAL GAURDIAN she bares as much blame as the police.

  12. i find that ceramic kitchen knifes are the best because they are very sharp and easy to clean `

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